tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post6605627869215198667..comments2023-06-17T11:03:38.221+01:00Comments on Trying to follow Torah without Embarrassing HaShem : Shavout Highlights David Kavanagh http://www.blogger.com/profile/08418936234591060766noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-14290891458348396662014-06-08T19:21:17.723+01:002014-06-08T19:21:17.723+01:00No problem HannahNo problem HannahDavid Kavanaghhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-70772521649924446032014-06-06T17:36:28.844+01:002014-06-06T17:36:28.844+01:00Thanks Esther,
Sephardi music is soooo expressive ...Thanks Esther,<br />Sephardi music is soooo expressive !Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-42929079672587520472014-06-06T16:04:58.447+01:002014-06-06T16:04:58.447+01:00Great stuff Ruth! Thanks for sharing,of course a T...Great stuff Ruth! Thanks for sharing,of course a Torah scroll is better off being with the Jewish community than some stuffy museum !Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-63278935802364099862014-06-06T15:24:06.036+01:002014-06-06T15:24:06.036+01:00Hi Terry
I think David has explained to you the ...Hi Terry<br /><br /><br />I think David has explained to you the laws of noah below , so I won't add anything further to that comment.Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-62514569225346988402014-06-06T15:22:51.026+01:002014-06-06T15:22:51.026+01:00Hi David,
Thanks for that full explanation, much...Hi David,<br /><br /><br />Thanks for that full explanation, much appreciated!Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-36383005941284786822014-06-06T15:16:08.530+01:002014-06-06T15:16:08.530+01:00We're just getting too young for this aren'...We're just getting too young for this aren't we?David Kavanaghhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-64438876289938075442014-06-06T15:11:05.856+01:002014-06-06T15:11:05.856+01:00Great song Esther !Great song Esther !David Kavanaghhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-87201780483808885912014-06-06T15:10:16.130+01:002014-06-06T15:10:16.130+01:00Hannah
The answer is that our Rabbis interpret t...Hannah <br /><br />The answer is that our Rabbis interpret the 7 laws of Noah in a much more lenient way as our laws, because Gentiles do not have the benefit of the oral Torah. And whilst being a Christian is idol worship to a Jew, because Christians themselves claim strict monotheism, this does not for them constitute idol worship. I believe the same is true for Hindus, as like Christians they actually have 1 God, but different aspects of the same, although Maimonides did argue that Hindus were idolaters, I think the situation has changed somewhat now, because we've all got to know each other a bit better; besides which Hindus have never persecuted or harmed Jews in any way shape or form and our interfaith relationships are nothing other than amicable (as you know via Mrs K's Welsh -Hindu family). <br /><br />From Wikipedia -<br /><br />"The world's first Jewish-Hindu interfaith leadership summit, spearheaded by Hindu organisations in India and Jewish organisations in Israel, as well as the American Jewish Committee, was held in New Delhi on February 2007. The chief Rabbi of Israel, Yona Metzger, was actively involved in the dialogue, together with Swami Dayanand Saraswati. They stated that "The Jewish and Hindu communities are committed to the ancient traditions of Judaism and Hindu dharma respectively, and have both, in their own ways, gone through the painful experiences of persecution, oppression and destruction." Mertzger quoted:<br /><br />"For thousands of years we have marched on parallel causes and have now built bridges of cooperation between the two religions. Jews have lived in India for over 2000 years and have never been discriminated against. This is something unparalleled in human history".<br /><br />A second Hindu-Jewish summit took place in Jerusalem in February 2008. There, the Jewish delegation accepted that true Hindus accept One Supreme Being and do not think that the representations used in worship are idols. Despite snowy weather in Jerusalem, the Hindu delegation visited and said their prayers at the Kotel, also known as the Western Wall, one of the holiest sites for Jews.<br /><br />In June 2009, another Hindu-Jewish interfaith meet was held in New York and Washington. The International Hindu-Jewish Leadership Dialogue was hosted by the American Jewish Committee, the Hindu American Foundation, and the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha and was sponsored by the World Council of Religious Leaders. It began with a lunch and presentations amid saffron-robed swamis, dark-suited rabbis, and Hindu lay leaders wearing lapel pins combining the Israeli, Indian, and American flags."<br /><br />And this was from the same article -<br /><br />"The Bnei Menashe ("Children of Menasseh", Hebrew בני מנשה) are a group of more than 8,000 people from India's remote North-Eastern border states of Manipur and Mizoramwho claim descent from one of the Lost Tribes of Israel. It is believed that the Assyrian Empire exiled the tribe of Manassah almost 3,000 years ago. Although they settled in Northeast India, tribe members kept their Jewish roots for more than 2,000 years. On March 31, 2005 Sephardi Rabbi Shlomo Amar, one of Israel's two chief rabbis, accepted the Bnei Menashe's claim because of their exemplary devotion to Judaism. His decision was significant because it paved the way for all of the Bnei Menashe to enter Israel under Israel's Law of Return. In the past two decades, some 1,300 Bnei Menashe have moved to Israel. Indian Jews including the Bnei Menashe have never suffered anti-Semitism in India, but they regard Israel as their homeland and decided to emigrate "on Zionist considerations."David Kavanaghhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-87678643279983440132014-06-06T14:01:18.843+01:002014-06-06T14:01:18.843+01:00Time for a song -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...Time for a song -<br /><br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xd3N1zdaNUEsther Shabohttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-15162262396761471112014-06-06T13:55:06.049+01:002014-06-06T13:55:06.049+01:00Dave,
Like you it was a mixed bag. Did stay up t...Dave,<br /><br /><br />Like you it was a mixed bag. Did stay up to do Torah, study, but with school kids still needing to go to school, neither I nor Pete did an all nighter. I'm glad I'm not the only one with cheesecake left!Esther Shabohttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-33846351969868528052014-06-06T13:53:24.781+01:002014-06-06T13:53:24.781+01:00Hannah,
LOL! Is Dave still 'the Vulcan'...Hannah, <br /><br /><br />LOL! Is Dave still 'the Vulcan' ??Esther Shabohttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-24803385925697091552014-06-06T13:39:50.318+01:002014-06-06T13:39:50.318+01:00The laws of Noah? What are they? I thought this w...The laws of Noah? What are they? I thought this was about the 10 commandments ?Terrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-5705721818920368352014-06-06T13:18:12.613+01:002014-06-06T13:18:12.613+01:00Hi David,
Well it was good to see you on the se...Hi David, <br /><br /><br />Well it was good to see you on the second night and me and our housemates had a fab time on the first one. Great meal; we had Challah, Chicken Tagine and cheese cake. Really enjoyed staying up to study the Torah from cover to cover. Our bro Sam put on his Fedora and we did Kabbolas HaTorah... We had plenty of coffee, cheesecake,blintz, Khai,siete cielos, olives, Smaltz Herring & malt whiskey. We started at 9.30pm and finished at 9.30 Am, the next day .<br /><br /><br />Amazing what 5 Jews, 2 agnostics and 1 Anglican can come up with, over ! Also enjoyed reading the text in Hebrew and Aramaic- and helping others to understand these languages, as I've been a bit lazy recently, by using English translations of the Torah and Talmud . Big highlights for me was looking again at the Genesis creation account, The Ten Commandments and Shabbat 31 a, among loads of other stuff! (:Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-8180593590359254142014-06-06T12:52:18.278+01:002014-06-06T12:52:18.278+01:00'Mr Kavanagh. as the tool of the international...'Mr Kavanagh. as the tool of the international Zionist conspiracy'....<br /><br /><br /><br />LOL!Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.com