tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post699284705287418593..comments2023-06-17T11:03:38.221+01:00Comments on Trying to follow Torah without Embarrassing HaShem : Letter to G-d David Kavanagh http://www.blogger.com/profile/08418936234591060766noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-90829968256262824212014-05-24T07:55:17.404+01:002014-05-24T07:55:17.404+01:00Except anyone who doesn't make up the 0.2% of ...Except anyone who doesn't make up the 0.2% of the world population is doubtless destined for whatever hell Jews believe in. And you guys want us to follow all these impossible rules and regulations? Utterly daft .Atheist Shruggednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-20552165636735320412014-05-24T07:54:01.400+01:002014-05-24T07:54:01.400+01:00“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most...“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”<br />Richard Dawkins is right as ever!Atheist Shruggednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-41462985379871918272014-05-23T17:29:56.947+01:002014-05-23T17:29:56.947+01:00No problemo sis!No problemo sis!Shmu'elhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-47692448104782570222014-05-23T17:27:57.391+01:002014-05-23T17:27:57.391+01:00Garnel,
"Be a good person, keep the mitzvos...Garnel, <br /><br />"Be a good person, keep the mitzvos as best you can, leave the world a better place than you found it and you've made Him happy."<br /><br /><br /><br />I couldn't write it better myself.David Kavanaghhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-6327104176934556412014-05-23T17:26:31.842+01:002014-05-23T17:26:31.842+01:00"And how do you claim to speak to the dead? H..."And how do you claim to speak to the dead? How do you know what your mom and dad think?"<br /><br />I never claimed any of this - in fact speaking with the dead is forbidden in Judaism. I can, however, claim a knowledge of our mum and dad more than yourself, in action as much as what they said. If you knew how our mum and dad died then you'd understand this, I believe in other places we have discussed this, but it is none of your business, quite frankly.David Kavanaghhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-59941279626355241722014-05-23T17:10:15.563+01:002014-05-23T17:10:15.563+01:00Terry,
I opposed gay marriage being forced upon...Terry, <br /><br /><br />I opposed gay marriage being forced upon religious communities, in respect of religious liberty. I personally believe that the current opinion of our Rabbis, tradition and Jewish law prevent gay Jews being married in the Jewish religion. There is a difference between that and being hateful toward gay people for being themselves; furthermore traditional Judaism has an issue with sex acts and not sexuality as such, but what happens in someone else's bedroom between consenting adults, such as my sister, is neither my concern or the concern of the state. In respect of the religion, this is between her and the almighty. I will not sit upon a throne of judgement. <br /><br /><br />There is also a distinction between civil (state) marriage and religious marriage. I can see that in civil marriage there is a way of allowing gay people to express their love for each other & obtain the civil benefits like hetrosexual people do. In respect of religious marriage and my religion, I see this as a 'no-no'. However, if there is a case to be made to change this view, then I welcome the arguments for and against; if Synagogues of whatever tradition wish to bless gay relationships etc, then that is up to them, at the local level. <br /><br /><br />I simply don't want the state to force religions into something which they may (or may not) have theological and spiritual problems with. In respect of my views on sex, I often write these things thinking as a father to many daughters. I believe that it is preferable to wait for marriage to have sex (and lots of good sex at that!) because sex- especially hetrosexual sex, can lead to consequences & can change your life (e.g. children) before you may or may not be equipped to handle, but I also live in the real world. <br /><br /><br />I trust that this clarifies my view. Yes it is complex, but I'm a complex man. My thought process isn't 'black and white' and I detest some of the vile things people who claim a faith, say about gay people and the ravings of a 'gaystapo' (itself a hyperbolic term which offends me, because of the comparison with Nazi Germany, which is a wholly inappropriate analogy).<br /><br /><br />DKDavid Kavanaghhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-68107325289990865082014-05-23T16:29:23.868+01:002014-05-23T16:29:23.868+01:00David you can delete this or tell me to go away, b...David you can delete this or tell me to go away, but given your traditional views on sex and marriage, aren't you being a little hypocritical in endorsing your sister's gay relationship? And how do you claim to speak to the dead? How do you know what your mom and dad think?Terrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-9141361894065362892014-05-22T23:08:23.846+01:002014-05-22T23:08:23.846+01:00Hi Rach, Thanks for that posting. Saved me the bot...Hi Rach, Thanks for that posting. Saved me the bother!Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-3466322661433368692014-05-22T22:42:04.930+01:002014-05-22T22:42:04.930+01:00Every day is a new day; an anniversary to the reve...Every day is a new day; an anniversary to the revelation of truth and of our Yahweh Elohim Allah is ONE and SAME.Karlanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-80688954289087560712014-05-22T22:40:20.396+01:002014-05-22T22:40:20.396+01:00You're entitled to your own religious believes...You're entitled to your own religious believes. I'm entitled to call these utter bollocks. But I'm not sure why you think it necessary to, by implication, tell us that our nephew, niece, uncle, auntie and sister in law are all in his 'hell' of yours. As much as we love ecumenical dialogue, can't you just keep your gob shut or go onto a blog that is more suitable for yourself?Rachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-51672978400188086352014-05-22T22:37:56.331+01:002014-05-22T22:37:56.331+01:00Hi Hannah,
Thanks, thanks, aside from the gay bi...Hi Hannah,<br /><br /><br />Thanks, thanks, aside from the gay bit, it is exactly what I'd like to ask G-d! And Sarah is just right for U, sis xRachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-78579580314278159022014-05-22T22:36:55.947+01:002014-05-22T22:36:55.947+01:00George,
*Yawn*
Some old utter crap from you.George, <br /><br /><br />*Yawn*<br /><br /><br />Some old utter crap from you.Rachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-29330382765333999252014-05-22T22:24:40.701+01:002014-05-22T22:24:40.701+01:001 Corinthians 6:9-11
Don't you realize that th...1 Corinthians 6:9-11<br />Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NLT)<br /><br />1 Timothy 1:8-10<br />Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine ... (ESV)<br /><br />Jude 7<br />And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment. (NIV)George Monkhousenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-3500156779657812912014-05-22T22:13:37.734+01:002014-05-22T22:13:37.734+01:00Sad to say if you are not a Christian, you are goi...Sad to say if you are not a Christian, you are going to hell. It's not unkind to say that, it is kindness.George Monkhousenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-81381575119659023472014-05-22T22:07:58.936+01:002014-05-22T22:07:58.936+01:00Hannah,
This is more you, more what you used to ...Hannah,<br /><br /><br />This is more you, more what you used to be like on your old blogs. Thanks for sharing such a personal set of thoughts. Liked the vid as well x (:Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-11189703698497217382014-05-22T21:47:34.453+01:002014-05-22T21:47:34.453+01:00Hannah,
Sorry I was just wondering why you were ...Hannah, <br /><br />Sorry I was just wondering why you were reading other faith blogs that was all. I'm not trying to convert you or anything. I enjoy reading about other faiths as well.Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-32938315854322707282014-05-22T20:56:06.385+01:002014-05-22T20:56:06.385+01:00Hello Ruth, hope U are OK.Hello Ruth, hope U are OK.Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-66557227045141730442014-05-22T20:55:48.951+01:002014-05-22T20:55:48.951+01:00Thanks Esther. I know its been tough for you xxxThanks Esther. I know its been tough for you xxxHannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-10360105271874609692014-05-22T20:55:31.359+01:002014-05-22T20:55:31.359+01:00Thank you all for your replies and responses. Keep...Thank you all for your replies and responses. Keep them coming.Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-23872980132128718542014-05-22T20:54:34.639+01:002014-05-22T20:54:34.639+01:00Hi Esther,
That's right. I don't really ...Hi Esther,<br /><br /><br />That's right. I don't really want to talk about it right now. Perhaps I might put something up to clarify some of my thoughts. I think I'll do that.Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-33925521132607573382014-05-22T20:52:22.518+01:002014-05-22T20:52:22.518+01:00Hannah, been true to the truth whilst questioning ...Hannah, been true to the truth whilst questioning it is OK.Ruthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-78662793171078496812014-05-22T20:39:57.307+01:002014-05-22T20:39:57.307+01:00Hannah,
Talk about these things when you want t...Hannah, <br /><br /><br />Talk about these things when you want to, you're in control here, not anyone else. This isn't a forum for every man and his dog to try and convert you Evangelical Christianity.Esther Shabohttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-85888333996719964422014-05-22T20:36:06.662+01:002014-05-22T20:36:06.662+01:00Thanks for this Hannah. You aren't alone with ...Thanks for this Hannah. You aren't alone with these things.<br /><br /><br />Hashem, ani ohev otraEsther Shabohttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-64128924171853253162014-05-22T18:00:05.866+01:002014-05-22T18:00:05.866+01:00Hi Garnel,
Thanks for that, I'll look it up ...Hi Garnel,<br /><br /><br />Thanks for that, I'll look it up :)Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-25688425488211112342014-05-22T17:59:27.885+01:002014-05-22T17:59:27.885+01:00"But you were a Christian at one stage it see..."But you were a Christian at one stage it seems. Did you convert to Judaism? What's the story there?"<br /><br /><br /><br />No I didn't convert to Christianity or Judaism. I was born a Jew, raised up in Jewish traditions. I was an atheist- i.e. I didn't believe in ANY kind of deity. I did have a couple of years, where I did flirt with Christianity, which involved attending an 'Alpha Course', before return to Judaism as a religion (that is literally what repentance in Judaism means - return). I never got baptised or anything like that.<br /><br /><br />I wrote three blogs about all of this , under various nome de plumes, which I've deleted, so you won't be able to find them. I have copies of the stuff I wrote . It is interesting reading back on the ebb and flow of my thoughts, decisions and where I wanted to be . I gained much out of that experience, some good, some bad. I have my own intellectual, philosophical & personal reasons for rejecting Christianity, although of course that doesn't see me seeing the good in people who claim the title. <br /><br /><br />I want to share all these things here , as I said to you about other topics yesterday, alas I've got to admit I'm feeling cowardly. I enjoy chatting with people about my faiths, even those who don't share it. It is just that in the past I've had people with very strong opinions firing cannons at me. I'm not writing up my critique of Christianity or more positively 'why I am a Jew for Judaism', until I ready for the battle .Hannahhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.com