tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post7061085243904262968..comments2023-06-17T11:03:38.221+01:00Comments on Trying to follow Torah without Embarrassing HaShem : New Tory women ?David Kavanagh http://www.blogger.com/profile/08418936234591060766noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-12766629057970981282014-07-22T11:46:26.759+01:002014-07-22T11:46:26.759+01:00In your dreams hubby, in your dreams ! (:In your dreams hubby, in your dreams ! (:Esther Shabohttp://somersetjew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-7103891245733063292014-07-22T11:46:10.689+01:002014-07-22T11:46:10.689+01:00Well perhaps politics does and should come down to...Well perhaps politics does and should come down to ideas, philosophy, competence & policies, not whether or not one has a penis or a vagina?Esther Shabohttp://somersetjew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-33623634674998406862014-07-22T11:44:44.634+01:002014-07-22T11:44:44.634+01:00Rachel, I agree with you.Rachel, I agree with you.Esther Shabohttp://somersetjew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-9051190237990360112014-07-22T11:44:33.311+01:002014-07-22T11:44:33.311+01:00Well you could say that traditionally you had to w...Well you could say that traditionally you had to wait a long time to be promoted, but it seems politics has moved on somewhat. Is this good or bad? I dunno. Better than an old boy network.Esther Shabohttp://somersetjew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-80592373689235015512014-07-22T11:43:16.397+01:002014-07-22T11:43:16.397+01:00Nothing I've written above would necessarily m...Nothing I've written above would necessarily mean I disagree with what you have written there.Esther Shabohttp://somersetjew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-61311391170494648762014-07-22T11:42:28.585+01:002014-07-22T11:42:28.585+01:00Quite.Quite.Esther Shabohttp://somersetjew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-66940162519057301932014-07-22T11:42:17.518+01:002014-07-22T11:42:17.518+01:00I'm saying I want more women in politics, but...I'm saying I want more women in politics, but not due to some kind of crude positive discrimination effect or because it 'look good' for politics. I don't care about the class background, but on their ability, women or men. No I'm not saying that a woman's place is in the home, I'm saying that women are the only ones capable of running a married home effectively. It just isn't a man thing. I'm not saying that women can't have careers either. We can multi task .That's a woman thing .Esther Shabohttp://somersetjew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-83419508165976448562014-07-22T11:39:55.028+01:002014-07-22T11:39:55.028+01:00Good one. Especially the bit that money cannot buy...Good one. Especially the bit that money cannot buy class. How true!Esther Shabohttp://somersetjew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-55893289899943573322014-07-21T22:00:54.579+01:002014-07-21T22:00:54.579+01:00Hold on! Of course I can run a household. I just c...Hold on! Of course I can run a household. I just choose to allow you to run it instead (:Peter Shabonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-16095924389586122702014-07-21T14:03:13.978+01:002014-07-21T14:03:13.978+01:00Yeah, I like that phrase too!Yeah, I like that phrase too!Hannahhttp://kavskoshercurry.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-26428353310600987692014-07-21T13:27:15.101+01:002014-07-21T13:27:15.101+01:00I'm all in favour of women's equality as a...I'm all in favour of women's equality as a feminist. But Cameron promoted these women, not because he saw any merit in them, but because of the desire to make the tories less right wing zealots than they are. Are they any good? Let's see.Ruthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-79319327157482099672014-07-21T13:24:54.956+01:002014-07-21T13:24:54.956+01:00Could not agree more.
Tories are Tories, regardle...Could not agree more.<br /><br />Tories are Tories, regardless of gender. Maggie Thatcher, Theresa Gorman, Angela Rumbold, Virginia Bottomley, Priti Patel, etc etc.<br /><br />I don't want Tories running the country regardless of whether they have bumps on their fronts or not.Guestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-65313810935752394832014-07-21T13:24:18.945+01:002014-07-21T13:24:18.945+01:00I do wonder if it was a deliberate ploy to bring w...I do wonder if it was a deliberate ploy to bring women into the cabinet now, when they have insufficient time to put any change, whether positive or negative into place.He could have had women in cabinet from the start, they where all there, but chose not to.So this can only be a cynical ploy to try for more votes.But his actions in putting these women into cabinet now is demeaning for them and for every other women. they were not good enough before, but if they drag votes in then they will do for now.<br /><br />As for bringing there "womanly" experience, that is just ludicrous, any man worth his salt who is a parent, understands children's needs as well as any woman who is a parent.To use truss as an example is ridiculous. This is the woman who wanted increase the number of children under 5 that one person could care for, to a point that was ensured that children's needs would not be met. That just demonstrated her adherence to tory austerity is more important than the well being of children.<br /><br />Women only short lists are an abomination. What should happen is that the best and most qualified person should get the job, gender is simply not important, Its just blatant discrimination on par with the bullington boys looking out for each other.Other Viewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-31861474286733476712014-07-21T13:22:24.485+01:002014-07-21T13:22:24.485+01:00Can we just drop this crap about gender and simply...Can we just drop this crap about gender and simply PICK THE BEST PEOPLE FOR THE JOB! This late attempt at pre election window dressing is doing the country a huge disservice as it's more about appealing to voters than it is about finding the most suitable candidates to run the damn country. Then again, that's politics all over I suppose : (Rachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-81555719393303976212014-07-21T13:21:55.320+01:002014-07-21T13:21:55.320+01:00Agreed. They are women but they are also of the sa...Agreed. They are women but they are also of the same 'class' as the men they replace. No real understanding of being short of money, worrying about getting a job or keeping it. In other words no change!<br /><br />I do have to ask about another point. These women seem to have come from the cohort that became MP's in 2010. Does the author think that they should have become Ministers sooner than they have? How long should they be an MP (in otherwords understand how Parliament actually works) before being a Minister?Thoughtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-72674097333758766882014-07-21T13:20:32.667+01:002014-07-21T13:20:32.667+01:00I don't want some Tory bullingdon bully fleeci...I don't want some Tory bullingdon bully fleecing my pocket.<br /><br />I want a woman to fleece me! There gender equality!Atheist Shruggednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-83958328678438637962014-07-21T13:20:04.200+01:002014-07-21T13:20:04.200+01:00McVey does not convince me! In my opinion she has ...McVey does not convince me! In my opinion she has no balance, she screeches and complies with IDS, she appears ignorant of human suffering. She must have spent hours choosing her clothing for the photo shoot, very shallow . Her experiences and lifestyle seems more like 'ladder climbing' rather than intellectGuestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-68592640286991824182014-07-21T13:19:17.330+01:002014-07-21T13:19:17.330+01:00To be honest, I find this celebrating that more wo...To be honest, I find this celebrating that more women are in the cabinet a bit perplexing. Surely it is what they believe in, their principles, that count, and not the fact that they are female. I thought that Margret Thatcher and her rule were absolutely catastrophic, while Barbara Castle had far better principles, vision, and humanity. Thatcher got her chance and took it, but why should we celebrate the fact that she was a female etc, if we thought her governments were appalling?Atheist Shruggednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-24654056918520055402014-07-21T12:33:32.417+01:002014-07-21T12:33:32.417+01:00Esther,
Bring on the meritocracy ! (:Esther, <br /><br /><br />Bring on the meritocracy ! (:David Kavanaghhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-12178637943780797332014-07-21T12:29:49.152+01:002014-07-21T12:29:49.152+01:00'Money cannot by class' : exactly ! !'Money cannot by class' : exactly ! !David Kavanaghhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-48352325260752586492014-07-21T12:16:07.254+01:002014-07-21T12:16:07.254+01:00Sorry sis, are you saying you want more women in p...Sorry sis, are you saying you want more women in politics? or less? or that they've go to be W/C? Are you saying a woman's place is in the home?Shmu'elhttp://intelligentanderuditejew.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-5319521186140384382014-07-21T12:07:47.183+01:002014-07-21T12:07:47.183+01:00Hi Esther,
Oh I've met quite a few snobby wo...Hi Esther,<br /><br /><br />Oh I've met quite a few snobby women of that age . Thing is they might have money, but they lack class which no amount of money can buy. As for 'Cameron's cuties', who knows how they will do in office. As you say I hope they are good because they are good and not because of their gender. Which should be irrelevant.Hannahhttp://kavskoshercurry.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.com