tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post9151136964495609143..comments2023-06-17T11:03:38.221+01:00Comments on Trying to follow Torah without Embarrassing HaShem : Purim: Anti-Women? David Kavanagh http://www.blogger.com/profile/08418936234591060766noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-91525396260357336932014-03-18T17:05:14.881+00:002014-03-18T17:05:14.881+00:00How can Vashti considered to be a positive role mo...How can Vashti considered to be a positive role model? The text doesn't explain why she refused- she could have been a nagging mow or something?Mancurian Womblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-52072436137718658782014-03-18T16:17:51.092+00:002014-03-18T16:17:51.092+00:00The fact is that all religions are certifiable cra...The fact is that all religions are certifiable crazy! No of you clearly has an education and have been brainwashed by your religion! Oh for an atheist secular state!<br /><br />Atheist Shruggednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-4777339652728591992014-03-18T14:53:48.712+00:002014-03-18T14:53:48.712+00:00David
Thanks for this article
Atheist
I'm...David<br /><br />Thanks for this article <br /><br />Atheist <br /><br />I'm an orthodox Jewish woman and there is nothing barbaric about how we are treated. <br />In Jewish law a man is expected to give his wife more honour then he gives himself; if he needs a new shirt and she needs a new dress then he is obliged to buy her dress before his shirt. <br />A woman is the one who initiates sex in the marriage and she has every right to refuse her husbands advances. Contrary to what some people think no woman is expected to be a baby making machine,if pregnancy would likely cause problems either physically or emotionally contraception is allowed. Esther Shabonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-28947181356231671162014-03-18T14:50:53.495+00:002014-03-18T14:50:53.495+00:00Re the article and Atheist :
Heavens no. Orthodo...Re the article and Atheist : <br /><br />Heavens no. Orthodox Jewish women are treated very well. Orthodox married women have to cover their hair, but Orthodox men, married or not, have to wear a hat/yarmulke even before they marry. So if you think having to cover your head is infringing on a right, then that would be men's rights that are being abused. Jewish women have a right to sex in marriage, Jewish women initiate sex in marriage, and Jewish women have every right to refuse sex, though they are not allowed to with hold sex from their husbands for manipulation/punishment purposes. So again, that would be infringing on men's rights if you consider this sort of rule to be an infringment on rights at all. In Orthodox Judaism women have it pretty darn good. <br />Husbands have to buy their wives clothes and food before they buy themselves anything. .<br /> <br />In Islam, if a woman decides to not cover her hair she can be murdered. This even happens muslim communities in western countries. In Judaism, if a woman decides to wear a short skirt the other people in her community will probably tell her it's not right and encourage her to dress modestly, but ultimately it is her decision and they will lay off. If a muslim girl did that, she would be killed for sure. In Judaism women (and men) have the right to not be religious. Violence against Jews is prohibited in Judaism. Secular Jews are encouraged to be more religious, but violence is not used to persuade. <br /><br />Jews are actually encouraged to think about the difficult aspects of their religion. To wrestle with it and come to their own conclusions. Rabbis will say that if they find a single error in the Torah then the whole thing is false and should be discarded. But not a single error has been found yet. <br /><br />Women's rights are NOT infringed on in Orthodox Judaism. Yes, there are few bad people that don't respect women. But you give me an example of any religion that doesn't have a few crazy people in it.Ruthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-22084825952219792782014-03-18T14:44:50.231+00:002014-03-18T14:44:50.231+00:00Only within your absurd masculinist worldview. One...Only within your absurd masculinist worldview. One only has to research Haredi Judaism to understand how ridiculous your claim is (like, for example, the gender segregation on Haredi buses in Israel, where women literally have to sit in the back of the buses).Atheist Shruggednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2776953281421752782.post-71856122574500439102014-03-18T14:02:06.415+00:002014-03-18T14:02:06.415+00:00Hi David
Thanks for giving us a frisking of this ...Hi David<br /><br />Thanks for giving us a frisking of this article. I have no idea why the author put those things in about the negative portrayal of women? Seems totally daft-the story is 2,500 plus years old, so for the chief person in the story and heroine to be a woman means something by the standards of the day?!?Hannah out loudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137173522325559607noreply@blogger.com