David here,
I am taking a quick dive back into blogging, for this article.
It looks like the current military conflict is Gaza is coming to an end or at least a long pause, whilst some form of ceasefire is arranged between the 2 sides in Cairo. It has been a tough fight, one in which many Israelis & Palestinians died, not because of Israeli 'imperialism', but because of the sheer intransigence of Hamas. Millions of pounds of aid were misspent by terrorists building these tunnels and the resources of Gaza were all ploughed into projects, not for the welfare of the territories people, but for terrorists purposes. To be sure Israel has NOT overthrown the terrorist regime, which would have been my aim. I can appreciate why Israel did not do so, for various strategic and political reasons. My only fear is that in a couple of years, if not months, this whole thing will happen again, as the terror network is still there .But at least the tunnels are gone and Hamas have been dealt a severe blow.
In respect of the Palestinian threat to join the ICC : this is an utter joke. Not that Israel should recognise this kangaroo court, but even if it did, I doubt the Pals will go for this, other than by way as a negotiating chip. Why? Well put simply the reason why so many in the west fall for Palestinian propaganda is because the media like 'real time' information and the Hamas give them that, or more accurately lies and utterly ridiculous lies at that. The IDF is often slow to rebut these charges, because they are a modern western PROFESSIONAL fighting force and therefore do thorough investigations when things apparently go wrong, have armies of lawyers, investigators etc & most of the time when reports are issued, we often see half of what has been claimed by the UN/media/Hamas is a load of distorted and twisted untruths, but by that time the media circus has moved on, so the mud and propaganda victory sticks with one side . The problems for the Pals is that all of this is kept and documented by the IDF, so their lies would be exposed in the full glare of reality if it ever went to a court (not, note, that it should, as Israel has no case to answer anyway).
As for the impact on this for British politics, I won't comment as such on this, because that is my brother Sam's patch (read his blog here). All I will say is that this war has yet again exposed some ugly latent anti-semitism , which is sad because the bulk of the British population- the silent majority- are with Israel and against the terrorists. That we have idiots like the liberal democrats calling for an arms embargo and voter (Islamic) grubbing fools like the Labour party is unfortunate. And then there is Lady "principle" Warsi, to which one asks where was your principle on other occasions it was called for when it comes to 'morally indefensible' outrages ?
Finally, as ever, we must thank the men and women of the IDF, the young flowers of Israel, who have had to do the fighting to protect the Jewish homeland. Our thoughts are with those who have not come back. May they not be forgotten. As we have said in Britain on Monday, "they gave their today, for our tomorrow".
G-d bless you all.
Get Israel to recognize the Palestinian Territories and stop this illegal occupation of their land and treating them as less than human and the fighting will stop. Jewish Zionism is evil and their pursuit of ownership of this land is in contrast to the values of the Jewish faith. The Zionists are the true terrorists.Stop the Israeli illegal land grabbing then you might stop rockets being fired at Israel in retaliation! You have to look a little more closely here than merely blaming terrorists, Palestinians are being boxed in like sardines. The terrorist is Israel. They are the Ones who broke the ceasefire, they are the ones refusing to sit down at a peacetable, they are the ones doing the majority of Murders.
ReplyDeleteIsrael is the occupier. The occupation began in '67.
ReplyDeleteThe Palestinians aren't the terrorists.
Funny that David (and the rest of us) consistently refer to Hamas as terrorists, not the people of Palestine. And Israel does not occupy the Gaza strip. Which is why it is controlled by fundamentalist lunatics.
ReplyDeleteThis is the problem you guys never answer: if you are going to dismantle Israel (which will NEVER happen), what are you going to do with 6-7 million Israeli Jews and the 200,000 Christians & others, who presumably will not want to live in a totalitarian fascist Palestine run by religious fanatics, as they country goes down the route of third world shit hole? Please answer.
ReplyDeleteIsrael accepted the first ceasefire. Hamas did not. When Israel accepted other ceasefires on humanitarian grounds they continued to fight. Do some fact checking. Israel is not a terrorist state. You are talking about our family (as in our blood family) relatives. They are not evil people, but kind, gentle and humourous. They don't want to fight, but have to self defence.
ReplyDeleteArafat was given more under Clinton's last attempt to find a peace deal. He walked out of the deal. 14 years of further conflict and war could have been avoided if he had accepted the plan, which was EXTREMELY generous to Palestine. The bloody fool refused. Look what's happened since.
ReplyDeleteDov,
ReplyDeleteThanks for this; I pray that you are correct in that we have drawn a line against these terrorists. Thanks for all your and the families support over the past couple of weeks. I understand the personal costs of these things. I see the trolls are at it again.
Tell this to the many thousands of dead Israelis throughout the years.
ReplyDeleteSee Hannah's response below.
ReplyDeleteHamas aren't interested in real peace. Read their charter to get an education on that.
ReplyDeleteUtter crap, which I hope Dov will delete when he is back.
ReplyDeleteHow anyone can support Israel beats me ! A typical colonial state - invades against international law, steals land by force or manipulation of the "law" against Palestinians, Oppression by State forces - army and police, Coercion, and brutality. There is enough on record from the international media, Haaretz, the Israeli Peace Movement, the Recruits who Refuse to Serve, the ex IDF soldiers who did serve and got their eyes opened, When a politician tries to negotiate peace - the right wing assassinates -eg Prime Minister Rabin. Mr Netanyahu does not want to negotiate as he is opposed to a two state solution despite Israel stating that was the way to go previously. Maybe he is afraid that if he negotiates, he will be assassinated too. Gaza is not the first war crime scene committed by this country - Shabra, Shatila, Qana, Qibya,etc are stains on it's record - committed by the Most Moral of Armies.
ReplyDeleteI agree, but these fools can't see what a terrible regime they support. Look at past Israeli aggressions :
ReplyDeleteGrapes of Wrath
Wrath of God
Days of Penitence
Just Reward
Cast Lead
Iron Law
Protective Edge
such a peace loving state
The Western media supported by the usual politico band-wagon of Ed Miliband and Paddy Ashdown portrays Israel as a brutal aggressor slaughtering innocent Palestinian civilians. But such populist anti-Israeli posturing wholly ignores the reality of Islamist aggression in the Middle East and the depth of the challenge faced by democracies and other faiths. It is a complete inversion of morality which supports the malevolent forces of Jihadism and demonstrates a suicidal disdain for the interests of non-Islamic world. The “innocent” Palestinians voted for Hamas which then proceeded to fire 3,000 rockets at Jewish civilians and construct tunnels into Israel to infiltrate heavily armed terrorists. The media obsessively count every dead body but rarely mention that Israel uses its Iron Dome to protect civilians, while Hamas uses civilians to protect its rockets. The cry for negotiations is fatuous because Hamas is bent on the annihilation of Israel and the eradication of every other faith - including Christianity - within the Islamic Crescent.
ReplyDeleteLondon's Willy
ReplyDeleteJust out of curiosity, why should anyone give a rat's ass about UN resolutions? You don't actually think that bloated bureaucratic abcess actually has some authority, do you?
carl
All those conflicts were in response to terrorist aggression, not deliberate 'empire building' by the Israelis.
ReplyDeleteShlomo,
ReplyDeleteYes they are at it again- and I never seem to find the time to deal with these people! Just have to be quick about it.
& Before that Jordan and Egypt were the occupier. But you don't give a toss about that....
ReplyDeleteNo surprise given the UN is stuffed full of anti-Israeli hating states. Bet that's why you like it though. How's organising the demo against ISIS going??
ReplyDeleteShlomo
ReplyDeleteActually I'm going to leave that one up there as an example of utter idiocy....
Israel has offered peace before its own creation via the Peel report in the 1930s and then repeatedly after 1948. It has been Arabs and the Pals in particular who have rejected every compromise. Because the real agenda is too get rid of Israel.
ReplyDeleteQuinn,
ReplyDeleteLOL! What fantasy universe do you live in? That wasn't a rhetorical question. I'm really interested to know!